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Welcome to the very much Work In Progress Tournament Rules Pack for the 2012 ETC.

1.Tournament outline
Every player is expected to have read and abide by the stipulations lined up in the ETC charter : viewtopic.php?f=43&t=69474

1.1 Format:
The 40K ETC is an 8 player Team Tournament.
1850 pts Armies, Standard Force Organization Chart. (vote for 1850 pts to be viewed here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=92800)
Armies have to be fully painted/based and be WYSIWYG.
Teams will be matched by swiss system after the first round which will be randomly drawn by means of a program.
Battles have max 3hours in addition to the 30 minute set aside for pairings (3.5 hour rounds)
Battles will take place on 72"x 48" tables
Official language of the tournament is English.
The date for the Tournament: 18-19 August 2012 but it might be extended to take place over the course of three days in which case the 17th will be the official starting date.
Details regarding the venue will be announced shortly.

1.2 Team formation
A Team should consist of a minimum of 8 playing members; a 9th non-playing member may also attend the tournament to act as a coach for the team. The Team must have a nominated Captain (either playing or non-playing).

The Team Captain is responsible for the conduct of his/her Team. They are responsible for pairing their Team each round (see section 4.2), submitting results (see section 4.1), and are to participate in the 40K Captains Council as required.

The non-playing Team Member is allowed to:
- Be the Team Captain
- Do the Pairings
- Collate and submit Team Results
- Ask questions about how the game is going
- Tell their player they require a win/draw/loss
The non-playing Team Member is not allowed to:
- Give Tactical advice (they may not tell their player ‘how’ to get that win/draw/loss!)
- Speak to their Team player in anything but English

Any of the 9 team members may perform a player replacement : play a game with any of the 8 armies submitted by the team in replacement of another team member for the duration of a whole round. Replacement during rounds (ie when games are already started) will not be allowed except under extraordinary circumstances validated by a joint decision by the head referees.
Any breach of these rules is to be brought to the immediate attention of a Referee.

1.3 Tournament Schedule
Will be edited in once we have more clarity on the timeframe.

2. Rules

2.1 General Rules
The 40K ETC is governered by the standards and rules in this document in addition to those laid down in the ETC Charter.
We play with the 5th edition of the Warhammer 40000 rules without any add-on. Imperial Armour, Forgeworld or Apocalypse rules are not allowed but Special/Unique characters may be used without any additional restrictions. (see 3.2)
English version of army books and rulebook takes priority over other versions.
Each player must have all codices and rules they're using, army roster, dices, measure tape and templates.
All official FAQ and ETC Rules Clarifications are in use.
Eldar armies may use the Nightspinner as printed in the White Dwarf (vote results here: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=93632)
Link to the current ETC Rules Clarifications:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... y=CNOPjfsD

2.2 Referees
The Tournament will be officiated by 3 Head Referees and they can be supported by any number of Referees.
A Referee may not rule on a table where their own Nation Competes.
A Referees word is final. A red/yellow card system will be implemented.

A player or Team may receive any number of yellow cards before receiving a Red however a repeat offence that involves the same Player/Team should be strongly considered for a more severe penalty (for example another yellow card with a higher gaming point fine). A Yellow card with a 20-0 Fine is allowed.

Yellow Card – Warning. Offending Player and Players Captain are both warned. Referee may choose to fine the player Gaming points, however the Referee may not directly affect Match points as per the ETC Charter.

Red Card – Sin-bin. Offending Player auto-concedes the game (20-0) and must leave the hall till the end of the round. This is so a violent or abusive player has a cool down period before they are allowed back in the gaming hall.

A Referee issuing a Gaming Point fine will ask for the Teams Result Sheet prior to submission at the end of the round. They are to annotate the Fine on the Offending players score and to ensure that this is correctly implemented with the Admin Staff.

3. Armies

3.1 Allowed Army lists:
A team is made up of 8 armies with each army taken from a different codex.
Each player must choose a codex and each codex may only be chosen once per team. Available codices:
- Codex: Chaos Space Marines
- Codex: Grey Knights
- Codex: Dark Eldar
- Codex: Eldar
- Codex: Imperial Guard
- Codex: Necrons
- Codex: Orks
- Codex: Space Marines
- Codex: Blood Angels
- Codex: Dark Angels
- Codex: Black Templars
- Codex: Space Wolves
- Codex: Tau Empire
- Codex: Tyranids
- Codex: Chaos Daemons
- Codex: Sisters Of Battle (White Dwarf).

No Witch Hunter, Deathwatch or any Allies are allowed.
Army lists (codices) which will be published after 19th june 2012 won't be used. FAQ published after list submission dates will not be used either.

3.2 Army lists limitations :
None. All Special/Individual Characters may be fielded in the 2012 ETC with no restrictions. (vote results here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=92797)

4. Games

4.1 Scoring system :
A match between teams consists of 8 individual games.
At the individual level : Game points

Primary objective (8 points)
The player that wins the primary objective scores 8 points. If the primary objective is a draw both players score 4 points.

Secondary objective (4 points)
The player that wins the secondary objective scores 4 points. If the secondary objective is a draw both players score 2 points.

Victory points (8 points)
Calculate the victory point difference between the players and consult the table below:
VP dif ---- Winner -- Loser
0-300 -------- 4 --------- 4
301-600 ----- 5 ---------- 3
601-900 ----- 6 --------- 2
901-1200 --- 7 --------- 1
1201+ ------- 8 ---------- 0

To sum up, the result of an individual players consists of points awarded for primary and secondary objectives, plus or minus a bonus or malus due to Victory Points (see step 2).

At the team level : Match points
Team result consist of the sum of its players game points.

Match Points :
Team result, match points
86-160 = Win, 2 points
75-85 = Draw, 1 point
0-74 = Loss, 0 points

If two or more teams have the same number of team points (2/1/0) at the end of the tournament, game points gained from all battles will decide the champion.

4.2 Team players pairing system :
Captains will have 10 minutes before each match to decide who will play with which opponnent. They can consult with and use the help of the rest the of the team freely.

Players during match will be matched by Captains in that way :
"Secret challenge" - At the start of the pairing captains chose secretly one player - a champion. Champion can be different from round to round. Both names of champions are written down at the start of the pairing on a separate piece of paper and revealed and the end of it. Champions play on the last available table.

After that:
1. Both captains roll a dice.
2. Captain A who rolled lowest puts forward player A.
3. Captain B puts a player to fight player A.
4. Captain A choses a table for that game.
5. Captain B who rolled highest puts forward player B.
6. Captain A puts a player to fight player B.
7. Captain B choses a table for that game.
8. Captain A .....

4.3 Missions :
Missions will probably be changed from 2011. New mission packs will be submitted, discussed and voted upon together with the 2011 one to decide the final mission pack to use.

In all missions, special rules that will be used are : Reserves, Outflank,Deepstrike. Nightfigthing will be used when Dawn of War deployment is on. Tabling player gets 20 BPs, tabled player gets 0 BPs.
4.4 Terrain
We're aiming for a strict application of RB p88 to cover tables, as is illustrated here :

https://picasaweb.google.com/chtiofonce ... oLE_tu9DQ#
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5. Lists Submission :
Names of players with armies and team army lists are to be submitted by 23:59 on the 3rd of July 2012.
Teams that meet that deadline and submit correct army lists will receive 2 Team points (as for one team win). Referee corp will award the correct list submission bonus (better make it good guys).
Army lists are first going to be posted on secret captains forum. After the submission deadline they will be published in the public section for all to see.

Army lists are to be submitted in the following approved format (Use plaintext-format, readable in forum posts) :

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
TEAM : (COUNTRY)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 1: (firstname, nickname, secondname)
ARMY DESCRIPTION : (codex used, mention relevant details which impact force organisation chart and choices, for instance Ravenwing)

HQ1 : (codex entry name, detailed cost of every options & wargear and their multiplier if any, transport reference number if relevant) [(point total without

transport)pts]
HQ2 : (idem supra...)
Elite1 : (...)
Elite2 : (...)
Elite 3 : (...)
Troop 1 : (...)
Troop 2 : (...)
Troop 3 : (...)
Troop 4 : (...)
Troop 5 : (...)
Troop 6 : (...)
FA1: (...)
FA2: (...)
FA3: (...)
HS1: (...)
HS2: (...)
HS3: (...)
Transport1 : (codex entry name, detailed cost of every options & wargear and their multiplier if any, unit transported) [(point total)pts]
Transport2 : (idem supra...)
TransportX : (...)
(don't forget to delete unused entries)
TOTAL [(point total)pts]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 2: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 3: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 4: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 5: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 6: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 7: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
PLAYER 8: (...)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++

Examples of the proper application of the list submission template can be found here : viewtopic.php?f=19&t=75250

6. Version history :
2011/10/05 v1.0 by chtiofonce/Tomepnk : updates to reflect recent outcomes of votes.

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Aceasta este varianta actuala a conditiilor. Daca aveti intrebari, idei nu ezitati sa le spuneti.

Ps in ianuarie discutam clar pentru ca se va face pre-registration. Tot din ianuarie strangem primii bani de entry fee. Ideal in primavara stabilim si detaliile de cazare sa fie cat mai ieftin.
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Cum se aleg oamenii din echipa ? Criteriul care este?
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Pay eu zic asa...sa fie corect pentru toata lumea,Rezultatele din liga sa conteze un procent,rezultatele de la turneu sa conteze un procent si probabil prin ianuarie sa mai facem un turneu cu cei interesati si sa mai faca si acolo un procent

In finala undeva martie sa ne apucam de bilete si ce mai e nevoie.
Desigur cei nemultumiti sa aiba o sansa sa vina si sa zica:"domne cine e in ekipa:x,y si z"
Pay bine x,y,si z...ia venitit voi pe masa aici sa va arat ca joc mai bine"...desigur daca se cauta sa vina "cei mai buni" daca...incercam sa mergem friends...atunci nu stiu criteriile

In final vor avea loc si "antrenamente"--daca la aceste antrenamente se mai evidentiaza cineva ,participa activ, se vede ca stiedespre ce vorbeste...sound fine to me


PS: fara sa cunoasteti perfect regulile nici sa nu visati.Nu ar fi rau sa cunoasteti si general things about other armies

PPS: razvan exista si un side event de 1vs1?
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Prin alte parti am inteles ca Liga decide. Apoi disponibilitatea (finaciara cat si timpul). Apoi seriozitatea...And so on...
Cat despre reguli fiecare le invata jucand.
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Eu zic un imnim de 3 turnee trebuie luate in considerare,si alte game-uri de la antrenamente.Pt ca Alex a luat locul 1 la turneu dar in liga nu se califica(e la baraj),Crisit a laut 3 si in liga depinde d ejocul rezultatelor-baraj sau acasa
Si invers-Clau a luat locul 14 la turneu si in liga e calificat in sferturi
Cred ca jucatorii constantzi in 3 turnee cel putin si jucatorii care castiga tot pe la antrenamente,ajuta ekipa,stiu reguli,stiu armate adverse,vin cu idei de liste si isi fac liste competitve-asta ar trebui daca e sa cautam

PS: ar fi fost bine sa se precizez inainte de liga si turneu ca ar fi luate in considerare paote abordam altfel problema.
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ETC-ul nu e chiar un turneu competitiv. In sensul ca nu e un turneu de jucatori ci de echipa din cate am inteles (vezi si unele liste care au participat la alte ETC-uri care teoretic nu sunt chiar competitive).Si cred ca e o mica diferenta .
OK USA posteaza echipa Romaniei in viziunea ta .
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Pay daca mergem eu zic sa mergem sa papam acolo pe toti.
Adik vreau sa stiu daca mergem sa jucam competitiv sau daca mergem sa jucam for fun cu a "friends team"

Competitiv vad asa:

1.Usa-nush cu ce armata inca-probabil GK
2.Laur-garda-dar trebuie sa iti imbunatatesti viziunea asupra grazii(blake style)
3.Niraco dar cu space wolves si daca se antreneaza cu ei calumea
4.Alex Anton-CSM-si sa invetze bine regulile si ceva din armatele nevonventionale
5.Charli-daca invatza regulile armatei lui-sa nu mai aflu la jumatea ligii ca el merge 18" si trage cu toate armele ca e fast,ca el merge 18" debarca si face movement pentru ca e open toped si ca merge 12-18" si trage cu pasagerii ca au arme assalt si e open toped-Dark Eldari
6.Un Blood Angel-nush cine,dar unu bun
7.
8.
9.
Nu stiu restul-optiuni ar putea fi Zanfir,Banton daca sunt seriosi si isi iau armate serioase,Cristi ork horde daca invatza sa joace si citeste regulile...si cel mai mult invatza armatele adverse...fara sa intrebe ce e ala lascanon,melta sau frag grenades,ca el joaca cu orcii si nu a auzit.
Si mai sunt surprizele ce le poate oferi magazinul.
Oricum fara Eldari,Nyds,BT,DE,Chaos Daemons.

Semi competitiv-daca mergem cei mai buni dar cu armatele care ne plac---USA-necroni,Niraco-eldari etc.
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Pentru un necunoscator de reguli si stuff am reusit un loc surprinzator mosule
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